Discussion:
Moderator Vacancy Investigation: soc.men.moderated
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Paul W. Schleck
2014-03-19 02:29:05 UTC
Permalink
MODERATOR VACANCY INVESTIGATION (MVI)
moderated group soc.men.moderated

This is a formal Moderator Vacancy Investigation (MVI), begun because
moderated newsgroup soc.men.moderated is not functioning, and may
have been abandoned by its moderator(s).

This investigation will attempt to verify the reasons for non-function,
and may result in the removal of the group or the selection and
installation of a new moderator. In practice, the Big-8 Management
Board considers the third alternative -- changing the status of the
group from moderated to unmoderated -- as likely to cause more harm than
good.

NEWSGROUPS LINE:
soc.men.moderated Men's interests, roles, rights, relationships, etc. (Moderated)

RATIONALE:
Probe posts to this group do not result in bounces.

However, the last article approved by the moderators (i.e., not a
forgery) appeared in early 2008. Recent attempts to contact some of the
moderators at their last known personal e-mail addresses resulted in
replies from Graham Drabble and Mark Borgerson confirming that the
newsgroup and the moderation team are inactive.

DISTRIBUTION:
news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
soc.men.moderated
soc.men

CHARTER:

The newsgroup soc.men.moderated is for discussion of various men's
issues. This charter is meant to encompass a wide variety of topics,
including but not limited to: men's health, fitness, relationships,
rights, responsibilities, education, sports, and more. Posters are
expected to maintain a basic tone of civility.

In general, crossposting to soc.men.moderated is prohibited. Infrequent
administrative crossposts (eg. RFDs, FAQs) may occasionally be allowed
at the sole discretion of the moderators.

Appropriate topics for discussion might include (but are not limited
to):

* Men's medical issues.
* Education of men and boys.
* Men's fitness.
* The roles, rights and responsibilities of fathers.
* Perceptions of men in the media.
* Men's roles in dating and marriage.
* Divorce and child custody issues.
* The roles of nature and nurture in sex differences.
* Gender discrepancies in law and society.
* All aspects of professional and amateur sports in which men
participate.

This newsgroup is moderated.

The following are prohibited and could lead to having such prohibited
posts rejected by the moderator and/or banning of the poster:

* Personal advertisements.
* Commercial advertisements and money-making schemes.
* Chain letters.
* Posts in HTML.
* EMP spam.
* Binaries, apart from PGP signatures, X-Face headers, and other
ancillary article meta-data.
* Personally identifying information (residential addresses, telephone
numbers, government/vehicle identification numbers, etc.) that
is associated with anyone other than the poster.
* Forgery of valid e-mail addresses.
* Unauthorized approval headers.
* Excessive morphing/nym-shifting.
* Posts advocating violence or containing physical threats.
* Content advocating acts which would intrinsically be illegal in
most places, with the exception of legitimate civil disobedience.
* Insulting or making personal attacks on another poster of the
newsgroup.
* Gender-based, race-based, or sexual-orientation-based bashing of
groups and/or individuals.
* Copyright violations. Pointers to news articles, blogs, etc. on
this topic are welcome but are required to comply with fair use
standards.

The moderators reserve the right to edit or reject submissions as they
deem necessary to minimize their legal liability.

HISTORY OF THE GROUP:

The Last Call for Comments (LCC) on 18 Aug 2006 initiated a five-day
period for final comments. Following this comment period, the Big-8
Management Board decided by a vote to create the moderated group
soc.men.moderated, as announced in article <***@isc.org>
posted on 30 Aug 2006.

The vote was 4 in favor, 0 opposed, 2 abstain. 2 members did not vote.

This group was created on 30 Aug 2006. It had modest article posting
activity until about January of 2008, after which no further articles
appeared.

PROPONENT: Paul W. Schleck <***@novia.net>

PROCEDURE:

Those who wish to comment on this moderator vacancy investigation should
subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the relevant
threads in that newsgroup. To this end, the followup header of this MVI
has been set to news.groups.proposals.

For more information on the MVI process, please see
http://www.big-8.org/articles/m/o/d/Moderator_Vacancy_Investigations.html

CHANGE HISTORY:

18 March 2014: Moderator Vacancy Investigation
Paul W. Schleck
2014-04-01 16:04:30 UTC
Permalink
REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
moderated group soc.men.moderated (remove)

This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove the moderated
newsgroup soc.men.moderated.

NEWSGROUPS LINE:
soc.men.moderated Men's interests, roles, rights, relationships, etc. (Moderated)

RATIONALE:
Probe posts to this group do not result in bounces.

However, the last article approved by the moderators (i.e., not a
forgery) appeared in early 2008. Recent attempts to contact some of the
moderators at their last known personal e-mail addresses resulted in
replies from Graham Drabble and Mark Borgerson confirming that the
newsgroup and the moderation team are inactive.

DISCUSSION SO FAR:

Turin Turambar posted to news.groups.proposals on March 19th, 2014 in
article <lgb4pl$14r$***@dont-email.me> expressing interesting in retention
of the newsgroup and in assuming the role of moderator. After
consideration of the questions and suggestions posted by the proponent
the same day in followup article <532a35e2$0$22482$***@novia.net>,
Turin Turambar withdrew his interest in becoming moderator on March 20,
2014 in followup article <lgdsmf$rj9$***@dont-email.me>.

No one has followed up to rebut the basic finding of fact of the
Moderator Vacancy Investigation that the soc.men.moderated newsgroup has
been dead for several years and is unlikely to be resurrected by the
original moderation team. No other volunteers have stepped forward to
take over moderation of the soc.men.moderated newsgroup.

DISTRIBUTION:
news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
soc.men.moderated
soc.men

CHARTER:

The newsgroup soc.men.moderated is for discussion of various men's
issues. This charter is meant to encompass a wide variety of topics,
including but not limited to: men's health, fitness, relationships,
rights, responsibilities, education, sports, and more. Posters are
expected to maintain a basic tone of civility.

In general, crossposting to soc.men.moderated is prohibited. Infrequent
administrative crossposts (eg. RFDs, FAQs) may occasionally be allowed
at the sole discretion of the moderators.

Appropriate topics for discussion might include (but are not limited
to):

* Men's medical issues.
* Education of men and boys.
* Men's fitness.
* The roles, rights and responsibilities of fathers.
* Perceptions of men in the media.
* Men's roles in dating and marriage.
* Divorce and child custody issues.
* The roles of nature and nurture in sex differences.
* Gender discrepancies in law and society.
* All aspects of professional and amateur sports in which men
participate.

This newsgroup is moderated.

The following are prohibited and could lead to having such prohibited
posts rejected by the moderator and/or banning of the poster:

* Personal advertisements.
* Commercial advertisements and money-making schemes.
* Chain letters.
* Posts in HTML.
* EMP spam.
* Binaries, apart from PGP signatures, X-Face headers, and other
ancillary article meta-data.
* Personally identifying information (residential addresses, telephone
numbers, government/vehicle identification numbers, etc.) that
is associated with anyone other than the poster.
* Forgery of valid e-mail addresses.
* Unauthorized approval headers.
* Excessive morphing/nym-shifting.
* Posts advocating violence or containing physical threats.
* Content advocating acts which would intrinsically be illegal in
most places, with the exception of legitimate civil disobedience.
* Insulting or making personal attacks on another poster of the
newsgroup.
* Gender-based, race-based, or sexual-orientation-based bashing of
groups and/or individuals.
* Copyright violations. Pointers to news articles, blogs, etc. on
this topic are welcome but are required to comply with fair use
standards.

The moderators reserve the right to edit or reject submissions as they
deem necessary to minimize their legal liability.

HISTORY OF THE GROUP:

The Last Call for Comments (LCC) on 18 Aug 2006 initiated a five-day
period for final comments. Following this comment period, the Big-8
Management Board decided by a vote to create the moderated group
soc.men.moderated, as announced in article <***@isc.org>
posted on 30 Aug 2006.

The vote was 4 in favor, 0 opposed, 2 abstain. 2 members did not vote.

This group was created on 30 Aug 2006. It had modest article posting
activity until about January of 2008, after which no further articles
appeared.

PROPONENT: Paul W. Schleck <***@novia.net>

PROCEDURE:

Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup
should subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the
relevant threads in that newsgroup. To this end, the followup header of
this RFD has been set to news.groups.proposals.

For more information on the newsgroup removal process, please see
http://www.big-8.org/articles/g/r/o/Category:Group_Removal.html

All discussion of active proposals should be posted to
news.groups.proposals.

CHANGE HISTORY:

18 March 2014: Moderator Vacancy Investigation
1 April 2014: RFD (remove)
Paul W. Schleck
2014-04-15 16:25:32 UTC
Permalink
2nd REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
moderated group soc.men.moderated (remove)

This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove the moderated
newsgroup soc.men.moderated.

NEWSGROUPS LINE:
soc.men.moderated Men's interests, roles, rights, relationships, etc. (Moderated)

RATIONALE:
Probe posts to this group do not result in bounces.

However, the last article approved by the moderators (i.e., not a
forgery) appeared in early 2008. Recent attempts to contact some of the
moderators at their last known personal e-mail addresses resulted in
replies from Graham Drabble and Mark Borgerson confirming that the
newsgroup and the moderation team are inactive.

DISCUSSION SO FAR:

Turin Turambar posted to news.groups.proposals on March 19th, 2014 in
article <lgb4pl$14r$***@dont-email.me> expressing interesting in retention
of the newsgroup and in assuming the role of moderator. After
consideration of the questions and suggestions posted by the proponent
the same day in followup article <532a35e2$0$22482$***@novia.net>,
Turin Turambar withdrew his interest in becoming moderator on March 20,
2014 in followup article <lgdsmf$rj9$***@dont-email.me>.

No one has followed up to rebut the basic finding of fact of the
Moderator Vacancy Investigation that the soc.men.moderated newsgroup has
been dead for several years and is unlikely to be resurrected by the
original moderation team. No other volunteers have stepped forward to
take over moderation of the soc.men.moderated newsgroup.

DISTRIBUTION:
news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
soc.men.moderated
soc.men

CHARTER:

The newsgroup soc.men.moderated is for discussion of various men's
issues. This charter is meant to encompass a wide variety of topics,
including but not limited to: men's health, fitness, relationships,
rights, responsibilities, education, sports, and more. Posters are
expected to maintain a basic tone of civility.

In general, crossposting to soc.men.moderated is prohibited. Infrequent
administrative crossposts (eg. RFDs, FAQs) may occasionally be allowed
at the sole discretion of the moderators.

Appropriate topics for discussion might include (but are not limited
to):

* Men's medical issues.
* Education of men and boys.
* Men's fitness.
* The roles, rights and responsibilities of fathers.
* Perceptions of men in the media.
* Men's roles in dating and marriage.
* Divorce and child custody issues.
* The roles of nature and nurture in sex differences.
* Gender discrepancies in law and society.
* All aspects of professional and amateur sports in which men
participate.

This newsgroup is moderated.

The following are prohibited and could lead to having such prohibited
posts rejected by the moderator and/or banning of the poster:

* Personal advertisements.
* Commercial advertisements and money-making schemes.
* Chain letters.
* Posts in HTML.
* EMP spam.
* Binaries, apart from PGP signatures, X-Face headers, and other
ancillary article meta-data.
* Personally identifying information (residential addresses, telephone
numbers, government/vehicle identification numbers, etc.) that
is associated with anyone other than the poster.
* Forgery of valid e-mail addresses.
* Unauthorized approval headers.
* Excessive morphing/nym-shifting.
* Posts advocating violence or containing physical threats.
* Content advocating acts which would intrinsically be illegal in
most places, with the exception of legitimate civil disobedience.
* Insulting or making personal attacks on another poster of the
newsgroup.
* Gender-based, race-based, or sexual-orientation-based bashing of
groups and/or individuals.
* Copyright violations. Pointers to news articles, blogs, etc. on
this topic are welcome but are required to comply with fair use
standards.

The moderators reserve the right to edit or reject submissions as they
deem necessary to minimize their legal liability.

HISTORY OF THE GROUP:

The Last Call for Comments (LCC) on 18 Aug 2006 initiated a five-day
period for final comments. Following this comment period, the Big-8
Management Board decided by a vote to create the moderated group
soc.men.moderated, as announced in article <***@isc.org>
posted on 30 Aug 2006.

The vote was 4 in favor, 0 opposed, 2 abstain. 2 members did not vote.

This group was created on 30 Aug 2006. It had modest article posting
activity until about January of 2008, after which no further articles
appeared.

PROPONENT: Paul W. Schleck <***@novia.net>

PROCEDURE:

PROCEDURE:

Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup
should subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the
relevant threads in that newsgroup. To this end, the followup header of
this RFD has been set to news.groups.proposals.

For more information on the newsgroup removal process, please see
http://www.big-8.org/articles/g/r/o/Category:Group_Removal.html

All discussion of active proposals should be posted to
news.groups.proposals.

CHANGE HISTORY:

18 March 2014: Moderator Vacancy Investigation
1 April 2014: RFD (remove)
15 April 2014: 2nd RFD (remove)
Big 8 Management Board
2014-05-03 21:20:21 UTC
Permalink
3rd REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
moderated group soc.men.moderated (remove) LAST CALL FOR COMMENTS

This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove the moderated
newsgroup soc.men.moderated.

PROCEDURE:

The B8MB plans to begin voting on this proposal after five days. Please
offer any final discussion or comments before the end of this waiting
period. Voting may take up to one week (7 days); a result will be
posted following the end of the voting period.

All discussion of this proposal should be posted to
news.groups.proposals.

For more information on the newsgroup removal process, please see
http://www.big-8.org/articles/p/r/o/Procedure_to_remove_newsgroups.html

NEWSGROUPS LINE:
soc.men.moderated Men's interests, roles, rights, relationships,
etc. (Moderated)

RATIONALE:
Probe posts to this group do not result in bounces.

However, the last article approved by the moderators (i.e., not a
forgery) appeared in early 2008. Recent attempts to contact some of the
moderators at their last known personal e-mail addresses resulted in
replies from Graham Drabble and Mark Borgerson confirming that the
newsgroup and the moderation team are inactive.

DISCUSSION SO FAR:

Turin Turambar posted to news.groups.proposals on March 19th, 2014 in
article <lgb4pl$14r$***@dont-email.me> expressing interesting in retention
of the newsgroup and in assuming the role of moderator. After
consideration of the questions and suggestions posted by the proponent
the same day in followup article <532a35e2$0$22482$***@novia.net>,
Turin Turambar withdrew his interest in becoming moderator on March 20,
2014 in followup article <lgdsmf$rj9$***@dont-email.me>.

No one has followed up to rebut the basic finding of fact of the
Moderator Vacancy Investigation that the soc.men.moderated newsgroup has
been dead for several years and is unlikely to be resurrected by the
original moderation team. No other volunteers have stepped forward to
take over moderation of the soc.men.moderated newsgroup.

DISTRIBUTION:
news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
soc.men.moderated
soc.men

CHARTER:

The newsgroup soc.men.moderated is for discussion of various men's
issues. This charter is meant to encompass a wide variety of topics,
including but not limited to: men's health, fitness, relationships,
rights, responsibilities, education, sports, and more. Posters are
expected to maintain a basic tone of civility.

In general, crossposting to soc.men.moderated is prohibited. Infrequent
administrative crossposts (eg. RFDs, FAQs) may occasionally be allowed
at the sole discretion of the moderators.

Appropriate topics for discussion might include (but are not limited
to):

* Men's medical issues.
* Education of men and boys.
* Men's fitness.
* The roles, rights and responsibilities of fathers.
* Perceptions of men in the media.
* Men's roles in dating and marriage.
* Divorce and child custody issues.
* The roles of nature and nurture in sex differences.
* Gender discrepancies in law and society.
* All aspects of professional and amateur sports in which men
participate.

This newsgroup is moderated.

The following are prohibited and could lead to having such prohibited
posts rejected by the moderator and/or banning of the poster:

* Personal advertisements.
* Commercial advertisements and money-making schemes.
* Chain letters.
* Posts in HTML.
* EMP spam.
* Binaries, apart from PGP signatures, X-Face headers, and other
ancillary article meta-data.
* Personally identifying information (residential addresses, telephone
numbers, government/vehicle identification numbers, etc.) that
is associated with anyone other than the poster.
* Forgery of valid e-mail addresses.
* Unauthorized approval headers.
* Excessive morphing/nym-shifting.
* Posts advocating violence or containing physical threats.
* Content advocating acts which would intrinsically be illegal in
most places, with the exception of legitimate civil disobedience.
* Insulting or making personal attacks on another poster of the
newsgroup.
* Gender-based, race-based, or sexual-orientation-based bashing of
groups and/or individuals.
* Copyright violations. Pointers to news articles, blogs, etc. on
this topic are welcome but are required to comply with fair use
standards.

The moderators reserve the right to edit or reject submissions as they
deem necessary to minimize their legal liability.

HISTORY OF THE GROUP:

The Last Call for Comments (LCC) on 18 Aug 2006 initiated a five-day
period for final comments. Following this comment period, the Big-8
Management Board decided by a vote to create the moderated group
soc.men.moderated, as announced in article <***@isc.org>
posted on 30 Aug 2006.

The vote was 4 in favor, 0 opposed, 2 abstain. 2 members did not vote.

This group was created on 30 Aug 2006. It had modest article posting
activity until about January of 2008, after which no further articles
appeared.

PROPONENT: Paul W. Schleck <***@novia.net>

CHANGE HISTORY:

18 March 2014: Moderator Vacancy Investigation
1 April 2014: RFD (remove)
15 April 2014: 2nd RFD (remove)
3 May 2014: LCC
Kathy Morgan
2014-05-19 05:25:04 UTC
Permalink
RESULT
moderated group soc.men.moderated will be removed

The Last Call for Comments (LCC) on 2014-05-03 initiated a five-day
period for final comments. Following this comment period, the Big 8
Management Board has decided by consensus to remove the group
soc.men.moderated.

RATIONALE FOR REMOVAL:

Probe posts to this group do not result in bounces.

However, the last article approved by the moderators (i.e., not a
forgery) appeared in early 2008. Recent attempts to contact some of the
moderators at their last known personal e-mail addresses resulted in
replies from Graham Drabble and Mark Borgerson confirming that the
newsgroup and the moderation team are inactive.

NEWSGROUPS LINE:
soc.men.moderated Men's interests, roles, rights, relationships,
etc. (Moderated)

DISCUSSION SO FAR:

Turin Turambar posted to news.groups.proposals on March 19th, 2014 in
article <lgb4pl$14r$***@dont-email.me> expressing interesting in retention
of the newsgroup and in assuming the role of moderator. After
consideration of the questions and suggestions posted by the proponent
the same day in followup article <532a35e2$0$22482$***@novia.net>,
Turin Turambar withdrew his interest in becoming moderator on March 20,
2014 in followup article <lgdsmf$rj9$***@dont-email.me>.

No one has followed up to rebut the basic finding of fact of the
Moderator Vacancy Investigation that the soc.men.moderated newsgroup has
been dead for several years and is unlikely to be resurrected by the
original moderation team. No other volunteers have stepped forward to
take over moderation of the soc.men.moderated newsgroup.

DISTRIBUTION:
news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
soc.men.moderated
soc.men

CHARTER:

The newsgroup soc.men.moderated is for discussion of various men's
issues. This charter is meant to encompass a wide variety of topics,
including but not limited to: men's health, fitness, relationships,
rights, responsibilities, education, sports, and more. Posters are
expected to maintain a basic tone of civility.

In general, crossposting to soc.men.moderated is prohibited. Infrequent
administrative crossposts (eg. RFDs, FAQs) may occasionally be allowed
at the sole discretion of the moderators.

Appropriate topics for discussion might include (but are not limited
to):

* Men's medical issues.
* Education of men and boys.
* Men's fitness.
* The roles, rights and responsibilities of fathers.
* Perceptions of men in the media.
* Men's roles in dating and marriage.
* Divorce and child custody issues.
* The roles of nature and nurture in sex differences.
* Gender discrepancies in law and society.
* All aspects of professional and amateur sports in which men
participate.

This newsgroup is moderated.

The following are prohibited and could lead to having such prohibited
posts rejected by the moderator and/or banning of the poster:

* Personal advertisements.
* Commercial advertisements and money-making schemes.
* Chain letters.
* Posts in HTML.
* EMP spam.
* Binaries, apart from PGP signatures, X-Face headers, and other
ancillary article meta-data.
* Personally identifying information (residential addresses, telephone
numbers, government/vehicle identification numbers, etc.) that
is associated with anyone other than the poster.
* Forgery of valid e-mail addresses.
* Unauthorized approval headers.
* Excessive morphing/nym-shifting.
* Posts advocating violence or containing physical threats.
* Content advocating acts which would intrinsically be illegal in
most places, with the exception of legitimate civil disobedience.
* Insulting or making personal attacks on another poster of the
newsgroup.
* Gender-based, race-based, or sexual-orientation-based bashing of
groups and/or individuals.
* Copyright violations. Pointers to news articles, blogs, etc. on
this topic are welcome but are required to comply with fair use
standards.

The moderators reserve the right to edit or reject submissions as they
deem necessary to minimize their legal liability.

HISTORY OF THE GROUP:

The Big-8 Management Board decided by a vote to create the moderated
group soc.men.moderated, as announced in article
<***@isc.org> posted on 30 Aug 2006. The vote was 4 in
favor, 0 opposed, 2 abstain. 2 members did not vote.

This group was created on 30 Aug 2006. It had modest article posting
activity until about January of 2008, after which no further articles
appeared.

PROPONENT: Paul W. Schleck <***@novia.net>

CHANGE HISTORY:

18 March 2014: Moderator Vacancy Investigation
1 April 2014: RFD (remove)
15 April 2014: 2nd RFD (remove)
3 May 2014: LCC
19 May 2014: RESULT: soc.men.moderated will be removed

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